[Eurowise - Mike]

Main coilover bracket snapped on customers e36 m3

[Tyler]

There's a point at which people need to stop trying to get out with the least expensive things. This is past it.

[NC99M3]

Is that from a silver 2 door M3?

[PrzFghtrNfrno]

good thing I've never heard of DDM....

[volcom8190]

heres another example, as everyone knows i had a set of DDM coilovers fail about 3 miles after install, this was the result, if the roof had collapsed any further id be dead/paralized.......stay far away from their crap.

I was so close to a lawsuit it wasn't even funny, but because i installed it myself i had no grounds according to my lawyer.





one of these days ill take pictures of the horribly mangled front strut that failed, the inside of the welds look like a 5 year old welded them, I can do a better job and i barely have any experience.

needless to say the M3 is getting ASTs of some sort

[travsm3]

Holy crap!

[rt turbo]

JESUS! That crash!! I looked at DDM coilovers. determined them to be china crap. I went with H&R coilovers instead. They are beefy as hell. full 2" strut shaft! Sorry to hear about your luck and glad you ok Volcom. That sucks.

[volcom8190]

Eurowise - Keith, on Jun 17 2009, 07:48 AM, said:

Well after seeing those pics, Eurowise will no longer be installing DDM suspension components. Customer supplied or not.

It should also be noted, that the coilovers in the OP were customer supplied and Eurowise would never sell a product of such low quality to a customer.

glad to see this, even if it is a possible profit loss, id rather see people driving a safe car on the road than almost dead like me.

[chris]

Hello sorry to revive this thread. but mike how did this happened?? did it happen during installation or what?? again sorry for reviving this but i was going to get this thanks.

[michakaveli]

WOW!!!!!!! I'm speechless from reviewing those pix. Glad no one was seriously hurt.

[Leif Bronn]

Mike,

The only time I've heard of this happening is from a customer who hit a curb and the mount broke. This was not from normal use.


In regards to Brandon's rolled E36. Here is his original thread from Bimmerforums.com a while back.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showt...d.php?t=1156985

I know Brandon wants to say that he was doing nothing wrong and that the coilover kit was the cause for the accident but after speaking with his father, the police and reviewing the police report it's quite clear that there are two versions of the story: Brandon's report and the Police report.

I'm not going to post the report but in it the speed at impact was greater than the speed he claims to have been driving.

The stopping distance from 60 in an E36 is about 120 feet with anti-lock brakes but there were over 170 feet of skid marks before the car left the road.

This accident was not casued by a defective product, it was caused by reckless driving.

Leif Bronn
-DDM Tuning
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Quick Edit: It was Brandon's father, not the police that supplied me with the police report and pictures.

[michakaveli]

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[European R&R - Josh]

michakaveli, on Jul 16 2009, 04:22 PM, said:

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[Mproved]

Please tell me how you explain this coilover breaking at less than 15mph in a parking lot at the weld? What if he was going 70mph..? And then you warranty your parts but will not pay for shipping on a DEFECTIVE part...lame. I have bought a handful of products from DDM and this is not acceptable.

[Leif Bronn]

Mproved, on Jul 16 2009, 06:41 PM, said:

Please tell me how you explain this coilover breaking at less than 15mph in a parking lot at the weld? What if he was going 70mph..? And then you warranty your parts but will not pay for shipping on a DEFECTIVE part...lame. I have bought a handful of products from DDM and this is not acceptable.

I don't know how fast the person was going when they hit a curb, all I know is the customer hit something and that caused the weld to break. The Warranty does not cover miss-use.

15 MPH in a 3200 lb car produces a lot of force. Think about what will happen if you hit a wall at 15 mph.

Another example: You're installing a flat screen TV and drop it as your picking it up and the screen breaks. Would you expect Sony or LG to replace the TV when it was your actions that caused it to break?

All I'm trying to get across is that there are real warranty issues and things that people think are warranty issues.

If there was a defective strut or part thereof it would be replaced under warranty.

Mike,

I notice you sell and install KW suspension. What are your thoughts on installing their kits after reading this thread: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.ph...ght=kw+breaking

I'm just wondering if your going to pull their products off your site?

I personally think the KW kit is a great kit.

Leif

[Leif Bronn]

Another note: Take a close look at the picture the PO posted. You can see that it's not welds that failed, the mounting bracket was hit so hard that is bent as far as it could go then the welds broke. This was not a little tap, this impact had a lot of force behind it.

Here are the pictures of the KW Spring that BROKE in the above mentioned thread:

http://images.twatun...osen/veer10.jpg
http://images.twatun...osen/veer11.jpg
http://images.twatun...osen/veer12.jpg
http://images.twatun...hosen/veer2.jpg

Leif

[NC99M3]

Leif Bronn, on Jul 16 2009, 07:10 PM, said:

I don't know how fast the person was going when they hit a curb, all I know is the customer hit something and that caused the weld to break. The Warranty does not cover miss-use.

15 MPH in a 3200 lb car produces a lot of force. Think about what will happen if you hit a wall at 15 mph.

Another example: You're installing a flat screen TV and drop it as your picking it up and the screen breaks. Would you expect Sony or LG to replace the TV when it was your actions that caused it to break?

All I'm trying to get across is that there are real warranty issues and things that people think are warranty issues.

If there was a defective strut or part thereof it would be replaced under warranty.

Mike,

I notice you sell and install KW suspension. What are your thoughts on installing their kits after reading this thread: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.ph...ght=kw+breaking

I'm just wondering if your going to pull their products off your site?

I personally think the KW kit is a great kit.

Leif

mproved doesn't work for eurowise......he's an individual.